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Just a quick note in regards to the moderation of the group. Sometimes if I am a bit short on time or if we get a lot of posts at once I may have to just skim the overall gist of the posts rather than reading them word for word before I approve them, also we all have a different perspective as to what is acceptable and thus there may sometimes be the odd post that gets through that you may feel is inappropriate. And while this doesn’t seem to happen very often if there is anything that anybody reads and feels is inappropriate then please feel free to either shoot me a PM or use the contact form to let me know and I will always be happy to take another look at it.

Please keep in mind however that a post does have to be quite bad or harmful to the group as a whole for us to delete it, I don’t like to be too heavy handed with that kind of moderation and try to reserve it for only when it is absolutely necessarily as generally I like people to be able to have their say and most things can be ironed out with dialogue and often we can all learn from it, that said if you feel something is inappropriate like I say please feel free to let me know and I will be happy to take another look.


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  • Some get addicted to marijuana and some don’t – Now can we move on?

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    I just thought I ought to make this post and make it a sticky as for some reason we are sometimes still getting people post that we are all mad because they themselves are not addicted to pot and therefore that is proof that nobody else can be, obviously I don’t approve such posts as it’s not even an argument worth having and is a fine example of why this rehab group is set to moderation, we are simply not here to have arguments of this kind.

    I personally wouldn’t have thought that such a thing needs explaining or that a post such as this needs to be made in order to convince people that everybody who posts here is not stark raving mad but there you go apparently so, there are still many people out there who want to tar us with the mad brush for whatever their own personal reasons may be.

    If you want to know more as to why some get hooked on this particular drug and some don’t then you may want to read more on the complexity of the drug and the endocannabinoid system, as well as things like genetic predisposition, the different environments and ways in which people may use, the complex interaction between these genes and environments and so on and so on, obviously we can all have our own opinions as to exactly how much of an influence each of these type of elements may or may not be having but the one thing we should all be able to agree on by now is that just like with many other drugs and vices some people are reporting experiencing addiction and others are not, I think this rehab group is proof of that if nothing else.

    And even if it’s a milder addiction compared to harder drugs that not everybody will experience that does not mean it does not exist at all and should therefore be silenced or dismissed, you only need to read some of the stories here to see how difficult some people find it. It would be selfish to wish to deny these people the support they feel they need just because it doesn’t help your own particular cause. No support group is ever going to be a good advert for the issue concerned but that does not mean we do not deserve to exist.

    We do not claim to be a balanced representation of the experiences of the majority of marijuana users in general just as gamblers anonymous isn’t necessarily a balanced representation of everybody who gambles, that’s just the nature of an addiction support group it’s only for people who are having a problem with the issue concerned so of course it's going to be focused on that particular side. We know there are many people who use marijuana and are not addicted to it but we are just here for the ones who feel they are.

    Everything I have said thus far also applies to many other issues that relate to marijuana such as mental health and various other problems that a person may or may not feel it is causing them, one particular case or set of cases doesn’t prove the way it will be for everybody, there are no absolute rules and every case can be different. So that’s basically it, there’s no need for anyone to get angry or hate one another, I apologise if this is a reality which harms somebody else’s political cause or whatever but it’s just something that is the case and needs to be accepted before anybody can have a sensible debate on the subject, however as stated at the beginning of this post it’s not a debate that this particular rehab group has been set up to have, our cause is not a political one, we do not wish to criminalise, persecute or tell people how to live their lives, we are just here to support those who want to quit and whatever your views I think everybody can agree that a person has the right to do that if that’s what they themselves want to do. So even if this is not your own personal goal please have some compassion and respect for those who feel it is and don’t mock or belittle something just because you have not experienced it yourself or because it doesn’t help your own personal cause.

    All the best,
    Cannabis Rehab Admin

    If you wish to Use then Use, Your Body Your Choice, You're NOT a Criminal and I wish you well!

    My Choice is to be Drug Rehabilitated for 15 years because I Chose to be free from its Control on me!

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    This is true, some people get hooked and some don't. Marijuana is a very unique drug. It would also be irresponsible not to point out that a lot of people that claim to not be addicted have never tried to stop.
    Last edited by SRP; 10-27-2012, 11:33 AM.

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    • #3
      Yes that is indeed an excellent point, any drug user who claims they know for certain they are not addicted but have never tried not to use for any real significant amount of time can only ever have very limited credibility, this goes the same for marijuana as any other drug. How do they know they are not in the 10% or whatever it happens to be?

      If you are sure you are not addicted then why not stop for a couple of months and prove it to yourself if nobody else? If a person is not addicted then obviously it will not be a problem. I advise anybody who is a regular user to try this just to know for sure they have not developed a problem. After all there no harm in not using, what real argument is there against trying it? Nobody should be offended by or anti abstinence as some people seem to be, why not try it and see if you like it? If not then you can always go back to how you were. It’s not something someone needs to panic and get defensive over unless perhaps a person does actually have a problem. Either way it’s a great test to know for sure.
      Cannabis Rehab Admin

      If you wish to Use then Use, Your Body Your Choice, You're NOT a Criminal and I wish you well!

      My Choice is to be Drug Rehabilitated for 15 years because I Chose to be free from its Control on me!

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      • #4
        I agree

        I agree and amen!

        Everyone lives in their own reality bubble. Some of us work to expand and see outside that bubble, others don't.

        When a person says "I quit no problem, it's not addictive" what they are stating is "I have not experienced it, therefor it is not real".

        The best bet is to ignore these folks, and work with those who share your reality to overcome dependence.

        I mention other items that they have not experienced, but believe to be real.
        John Mckee
        "I used to be a hopeless dopehead, now I am a dopeless hopehead"

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        • #5
          Excellent thread topic. It is amazing how many people refuse to believe that marijuana can be addicting. Some people smoke and never have a problem with the substance, while others try it once and want to do it over and over again. I like to think that marijuana similar to alcohol in this regard. Many people try alcohol and can drink it in moderation and stop whenever they want. Others try alcohol and they can't stop drinking until it ruins them.

          In my experience, the rejection of the idea of marijuana addiction is promoted most vehemently by those who are addicted. They deny marijuana addiction exists, they themselves have failed to detox numerous times. They continue to use the substance despite all the detrimental effects it has on their life, and they hide their addiction from other smokers.

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          • #6
            I smoked the drug everyday for 9 months and when i quit cold turkey 2 weeks ago & i suffered the effects of withdrawal! Ive seen people state they have no detox symptoms! Although i have no cravens for it at all, the damage it has done to me mentally is not good! I understand the effects of normal life make people think they cannot life with out it! But you can, but only if you wanna! & have will power as the effects when you quit can easily make you go straight back onto weed!

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            • #7
              I'm new to the rehab group and on day 5 of quitting- I've smoked for 19years and what I want to add is sometimes addiction is also addiction to numbing feelings.

              I have spent yrs dismissing those who judge it, saying alcohol is worse, judging people harder than they judge me, becoming outraged when someone would criticise as I have achieved so much elsewhere in life, so it's fine to smoke and those who disagree are missing something themselves.

              Now, on day 5 I am facing that I had put a lot of effort into never acknowledging how much I suppressed my feelings by using it daily, that I used cannabis as a distraction to have what I labelled 'bizarre' thoughts and imaginary conversations where I won out in a negative discussion or situation, which meant I did not have to acknowledge my hurt feelings or anger at being treated dismissively. then I could con myself I had been fine with it and zen about it all, as I hadn't reacted.

              In short, I think the avoiding confrontation even with oneself is the addiction as much as the physical withdrawal; so my rituals of putting together a doob, not just the inhaling and exhaling, it was also feeling separate from those people who didn't smoke (that those who didn't were square or sad or dull) a very important part of it.

              As a result I didn't understand or want to understand that my defensiveness and often too-sharp responses, was all part of the addictive, habitual behaviour.

              This is in the context that I work FT, I was an A student and so could have been classed as high functioning.

              I also didn't smoke before work, I never smoked while on holidays abroad, but I did smoke at least 3 a night and 10+ per day on weekends, took 4 holidays to amsterdam. you know, serious smoker. all this while still socialising and going out and reading and gigs and doing everything I wanted to do, with friends introducing me to others as someone who bucked the stereotypes of a dope smoker, that I never let it affect my life. ha.

              So, I had truly underestimated how difficult it would be to change as it's not just the physical habit but provided the mental relief (aka hiding).

              I can absolutely agree it is addictive, but not in the obvious 'drug poster' way I had dismissed and mocked so often.

              I have no criticism for people still smoking, but do want to share my appreciation that I was addicted, just not in a way I had ever envisaged, and I am very appreciative there is somewhere to share this, so I don't go and blow (ha) my resolve to quit.

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              • #8
                I don't know if it's a physical addiction or mental, all I know is that I couldn't do without it. I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't enjoy life at all. When I tried to stop I was shaky and all I could think about was getting high. My nerves were bad and I felt my heart racing. I think these were all the effects of the drugs leaving my body because I was never like that before. Marijuana caused me to start doing other drugs too. No one can tell me it didn't.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for sharing.

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                  • #10
                    Just to add to this thread Dr Drew also confirms this threads point:

                    http://www.celebstoner.com/news/cele...r-some-people/
                    Cannabis Rehab Admin

                    If you wish to Use then Use, Your Body Your Choice, You're NOT a Criminal and I wish you well!

                    My Choice is to be Drug Rehabilitated for 15 years because I Chose to be free from its Control on me!

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                    • #11
                      joints and bongs

                      i think the way in which you smoke also has a huge effect on whether or not addiction begins in weed smokers. smoking joints is no where near as addictive because the %of thc consumption is much less then if you smoke bongs. in Australia the most common form of smoking in the younger crowd is smoking bongs. we dont share bowls either we "punch" them which consists of us smoking the whole bowl to yourself in one swift hit. this "hit" is what becomes addictive. im currently 7 days clean and going through some heinous withdrawal symptoms. tick all the boxes for hot and cold flushes, body aches, headaches, insomnia just to name a few. smoking bongs also puts you at a far greater risk for psychological issues with addiction as the method of smoking i described earlier means it all rushes directly to your brain. any responses?

                      btw i knew i was an addict. quite obvious when you punch 15 cones a day for the last 6 years of your life. also some nights which involved other drugs such as cocaine, mdma or lsd my friends and i predicted we punched over 40 bowls each over a full 24hrs. this drug abuse in my opinion adds to the process of addiction because just like smoking before eating it becomes habitual and thats got a lot to addiction.. its a habit, tough one to break too.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Unregistered Nice name ... lol Welcome... I am Dwayne .. nice post. I really relate on it. Im also under recovery through my treatment programs. It was my 1 week here in Substance Abuse Recovery center ... I used marijuana (weeds) and coke with 4weeks continues. It makes me crazy like im in hell ....
                        ===>here @ http://substancerecoveryservices.com/ for my treatment programs and this is my 2 week.
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                        • #13
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                          This is true Marijuana is a very unique drug and some gets addicted by it and some don't. Even I've seen some people who drink a lot but don't feel addicted for it. They've full control over their body and mind.

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