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    Default Hey! I'm new, i quitted weed and i would like to understand some things.

    I'm not an addict, only smoked weed 5 times through 4 years. My last 2 experiences (2 years ago and 1 month 10 days ago respectively) ended in a panic attack.

    My last time consuming cannabis was through an edible (cookie) made by a "friend" which wasn't very experienced; this cookie was REPLETED, full of cannabis oil and i didn't knew that at that moment. The high was so intense it lasted 12 hours, experienced paranoia, anxiety and an anormal heart rate.

    1 week later i was feeling normal except for some tachycardias that were triggered randomly/after stress, but after 2 weeks and through 3 more weeks my vision turned foggy along with anxiety attacks at a level i've never experienced before, had insomnia and i entered a state i called "supression" where i couldn't feel anything, no emotions, no temperature, no pain. Then the depersonalization-desrealization kicked in and it lasted almost a week. The worst days of my life and i'm not exaggerating.

    12 days ago, i started to feel much better, realized i was going trough a withdrawal process and to my pleasure most of the symptoms subdued, however some symptoms are still ongoing: insmonia, lingering and subtle anxiety/paranoia, difficulty to concentrate/hyperactivite brain, memory problems).

    Today i feel even better, but from time to time i still feel subtle anxiety, general discomfort and a strange feeling that something is not right;
    so i'm here to share my story to shed light on people looking what to expect on Cannabis withdrawal/P.A.W.s and to look for help trying to understand why i'm having these symptoms if i've never been an addict. Some doctors say it was too much drug and my body just couln't handle so my brain had to pay for it forever, some "friends" say that i just triggered early psicosis/schizophrenia becasue weed withdrawal doesn't exist and some people on the internet says it's totally normal (for addicts) and i will be fine in some time.

    This is my story, i've already read a lot of people 'round here and i would appreciate any kind of help understanding why this happened to me, how long it'll last, is this even withdrawal/p.a.w weed syndrome and not something else?

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    Hi MotorDamned,

    I don't have any knowledge or experience of what you described. Maybe someone else reading the forum will have some experience with the exaggerated intoxication and withdrawal effects. I think your doctor is probably right. Edibles can be VERY strong, and perhaps your body responded to this.

    From what I have read online up to this point, the symptoms should disappear completely with time. It might just take time to feel 100 % again.

    I guess you have searched on the internet for other people who have experienced a similar thing?

    Cheers,
    Alice

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    I know, i haven't found a single person in the internet/in real life with my symptoms after consuming 1 edible, so it worries the f*** out of me because i'm not sure what i'm experiencing, neither the doctors.

    Hope you're doing better, and thanks for the reply

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    Hi MotorDamned,

    You will find that opinion as to what is the cause of your situation is going to vary, especially that which you ask online and anyone from the whole stoner subculture is going to be unable to give you anything but a relatively biased one at that which will usually find one way or another to lay as little blame as possible on the use of the drug (in fact many of such folk don't even like to call it a drug) but anyhow.

    Bearing this in mind and with the full acceptance that many of us here due to our own experiences with the drug will have our own bias too I will try and give you as unbiased an opinion as I feel I can.

    First of I don't think you have used anywhere near enough for it to be any kind of withdrawal symptom, from my experience people usually have to use far heavier and for much longer.

    What it does seem to best fit IMO however and again I say best fit because none of this is anywhere near an exact science in terms of assessing and diagnosing and it is just my opinion but based on what I have experienced myself and heard of similar experiences

    And that is that consuming such a high quantity of the drug while probably having not that great an amount of tolerance for it sounds like it really may have of overloaded you neurologically with far more than you were able to cope with, bear in mind tolerance can play a big part here which really can vary, it also sounds like there was some delayed reactions and responses that occurred after your brain had finished processing the effects of the drug.

    Marijuana as a drug can stay in your system for a very long time so when you take a huge dose it can be quite some time before your body gets to the stage where it's processed it enough to even allow you to get to the next stage of whatever effect it is you are due to feel next.

    These kind of reactions to drugs like marijuana and others that have hallucinogenic type properties can happen to certain individuals whose bodies are unlucky enough not to be able to cope with the effects that taking such a drug can have, it is however fairly rare as far as I know and usually tends to happen with much stronger hallucinogenic types drugs such as acid.

    In fact there are numerous reports many of whom are famous the musicians Brian Wilson and Peter Green are two that spring to mind whose bodies had very bad reactions to psychedelic & hallucinogenic drugs and have had to spend a long time recovering from doing so although as I just said it usually tends to be with stronger drugs like LSD with the strength of cannabis these days, especially these highly refined forms with extremely high THC levels some people especially younger people are finding that they are experience bad like trip effects if you like which can included a lot of panic and anxiety attack related symptoms as well as other psychosis and mental health related symptoms.

    If I had to speculate I would suspect that perhaps you as an individual have more of a biological and unfortunately even a genetic predisposition for such problems, I speak as someone who is also in that club and for people such as us we can't always get away with using the same amount of a drug like cannabis that a person who doesn't have this biological predisposition can.

    Maybe your threshold is especially low and it could even be that cannabis has only triggered something that you probably would have experienced later regardless at some point during your life.
    But all this speculation aside the one thing I am fairly sure of although again just my opinion but IMO you are now dealing with a mental health-related problem that is going to need treating a such and the DP and DR and psychosis like symptoms are going to need proper professional and specialist treatment.

    So my advice is to get yourself to see a specialist as neither I or anyone else online can say for sure if it has triggered psychosis or some kind of DP/DR disorder and if so how bad it will be what the time frame for recovery is, whether you will need medication, etc. But I am fairly sure this is the area you need to be assessed, however on a positive note, just because you are experiencing this now doesn't mean you will feel like this indefinitely, people can recover from such problems as well as get the symptoms of them under control, there is help and treatment available you just need to get yourself to the medical professionals and definitely IMO ones that specializes in this area.

    Hang in there and all the best,

    My apologies for any bad grammar as I have not got time to proof read this at the moment but am sure you would probably rather just have the info asap.
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    Hi and thanks for the response, especially for the quality of it.

    After all these symptoms i've been feeling better with my emotions slowly coming back; today depite of don't gettin' enough sleep i felt so much better than a week ago, my anxiety almost disappeared and my brain calmed itself after having problems focusing on things, over-reacting to sounds and thinking fast. I still don't feel %100 better but i'm pretty sure i'm going back to normal (god i hope so).

    Now on the mental health issue:

    That's my biggest worry right now. I just can't see myself having a mental problem let alone schizophrenia so i consulted specialists and took tests in the case of have developed early psicosis/schizophrenia i could treat my issues since the beginning. Doctors told me i was just being paranoid and that anxiety has the ability to exaggerate bad thoughts. In short, i haven't had a single symptom of a mental problem lasting more than 1 month which is one of the many requirements to be diagnosted with a mental illness.

    I know i can't compare to you guys, the courage and determination i've read from people here is truly inspiring and i want to say thank you.

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    Oh that's good, hopefully then it has just been a really bad anxiety episode and all the weird DP/DR type symptoms that can go with that, I was a little concerned it may have triggered some degree of psychosis but if the specialists say your fine and as long as it doesn't persist long term then it sounds like you will be ok, when you really over do it with drugs that have these kind of trippy effects and especially if your not used to them it can leave you quite shaken and take a little while to get back to normal and as long as you discontinue using for most it doesn't take too long to get back to normal but unfortunately there are some for whom the long term effects can be more problematic but again it's often those who have existing vulnerabilities to begin with. Anyhow hopefully it won't be long before your back to your old self, you just may have to give it another week or two and yes sleep is so important in this situation, make sure you get plenty!

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