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    It's also perhaps naive of me to think that people, when they come here to get rid of an addiction essentialy, would start pulling out how positive their life is!

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    Hey Juan, and sorry for hijacking your thread Amber, but all in the name of personal growth! I hope as a budding psychologist that you could allow such a thing.

    It just seems to me to be something of semantics, because knowing you a little more, I don't think that you meant: 'there is nothing good about you'. I don't think you were trying to tell Amber that she is crap. I think that you meant something more like 'there is nothing positive in your post'. Do you see how this is a slight distinction?

    In the first example you are directly attacking Amber, telling her that there is nothing good about her. In the second example you are saying that there is nothing good in her post - so basically saying that she is saying nothing good.

    Small difference, big difference in my opinion. What do you think?

    And yes, quitting cannabis can make people feel pretty low and crappy - they probably aren't going to pull out about how positive their life is, but the fact that you said this, gives me the clue.

    Keep growing Juan!!

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    Yeah, I think you are spot on!

    What I basically meant was 'tell us something positive!' because I want to latch onto that as I believe it might help build up a positive motivation to stay off weed, and I'm sure there are many positive things in Ambers life, learning to be a psychologist is one thing that I should have perhaps pointed out at first!

    To me, being positive really helps me stay off! And yeah Amber sorry to hijack your thread like this, keep us informed!

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    Hi Amber,

    So glad you are getting something out of this discussion. Your dopamine system will definitely come back. As for the depressive symptoms, all I know is that it can vary between people, because everyone is so different. I have heard that six weeks is a good benchmark for that time when you get an understanding of the person you will be without cannabis. I found that I was really foggy in my brain from 3 - 6 weeks, but it was definitely true for me that six weeks was a turning point. Another milestone is the three month mark, as the last of your receptors are shutting down and it can be a challenge. It is completely doable though.

    Five days is great. I guess in terms of your depression, maybe you could think about other things that might help? I find that when I am depressed, distraction can be one of the best ways to deal with it. I go out, or do something else for a while and it distracts me from the feelings of sadness. I know that it is not much fun, but I also know that people can learn to manage their feelings of depression if they want to.

    As you are a budding psychologist, you might be interested in a book that provides guidance in a therapy called - ACT - Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. It helped me so much, and I was seeing a psychologist who was specialised in this kind of therapy. I can't stress enough how beneficial it was to my recovery. Here is a link to the Happiness Trap book: https://www.actmindfully.com.au/book...d=855&catid=61

    I can really relate to those feelings of not feeling worthwhile and the poor self belief. I think that is partially why we get ourselves into this mess in the first place. Addiction seems like a good way to manage those feelings, and I know exactly what you mean about the fact that it can hold you in the loop, because it is an excuse for smoking. I actually felt so much more in control of my life when I gave up cigarettes. It was a huge deal because I had been wanting / trying to do it for so long, so when it happened, it gave my self esteem a real lift.

    I also feel more emotionally balanced now without cannabis, and this helps me to continually learn and grow, which is very rewarding, and helps my self concept.

    You are doing a great thing Amber!! I hope that you will find the forum helpful for distraction and keeping you in the right mindset. Let us know how you are going!

    Cheers,
    Alice

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    there may be some issue with the reply system? i havent seen ambers and jwc replies untill now and I believe i have looked over the thread carefully before.

    amber, thats exactly what i was talking about! i find that it really helps me to force myself and bring out the positive, thinking about how much i have done in past and what ive achieved, even though i was high during most of my achievements. and yeah theres that 'could have been ever better if i hadnt smoked' but then again, that wouldnt be my story, thats some naive ideal id have on me, and theres no need to be so hard, especially now that we are quitting. somehow weed helped me in a lot of ways, but as it grew into a crutch and then into addiction, its just not helpful anymore.

    i would love to hear about your achievements, when and if you feel like telling them. studying psychology is one of them no doubt. its still a really underrated subject and we definitely need more people focusing on it. i think mental health equals and works in balance with physical, and it upsets me that in most nations with universal healthcare, you get a doctor assigned but you have to pay (and pay lots) for a psychologist.

    its great that you want to help people with addictions, especially weed addiction is also very underrated i think. you get alcoholic groups, groups for people with meth and heroin addictions here in czech republic, but no center and barely any psychologists helping people with weed addiction!

    good luck on the path and keep us posted!

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    Hi Juan,

    I think what is happening with Amber and JWC's replies is that posts are moderated for any newcomer's first ten posts. So even though they may have posted, CRA may not have approved their posts as yet, so we can't see them. And that is why their posts came after ours.

    Cheers,
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    hey john, thanks for the reply and congrats on the 4 week mark! im happy you've found some things that work for you !! im slowly getting there, it's been a little over one week now, im still having problems with insomnia and headaches but i think that could be also due to stopping smoking tobacco too. it's very helpful to hear others stories so thanks for sharing yours!
    Amber.

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    no problem juan, i understand, i'm half czech but don't speak it soo it can be difficult at times to speak to my family, i know you don't mean to be insensitive!

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    thank you for the reply alice, your words give me so much encouragement. I keep re reading everything you've said to me and i even showed it to my mum, you have no idea how much it means to me that someone would take the time to listen to my bull crap and give me really good advice. it's now been a little over a week and i still feel like a bag of soggy potatoes but i'm not getting as many physical symptoms like the sweating and shaking, i'm still suffering a little with the insomnia but i think it could be the fact that i've stopped smoking tobacco and i have exams coming up also.
    im proud of you for regaining the control! i hope to one day be were you are at.
    much love, amber

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    Hey Amber,

    I just read your posts from March 1. (And reread the whole thread). I guess I missed it when you posted them.

    I can't imagine going through what you are going through and being in school and having exams!!!

    Anyway, just a note to say I hope everything is going well for you and you are feeling better.

    All the best,
    John

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